Curse

Earth · Jul 17, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47

Just curious here, how high, or low, does everyone have their expertise, in general PvE, farming, etc.? Your build would also be useful

For me, I generally run ~10, sometimes higher, sometimes lower. I usually run a build like this:

[skill]Barbed Arrows[/skill] [skill]Power Shot[/skill] [skill]Penetrating Attack[/skill] [skill]Crossfire[/skill] [skill]Troll Unguent[/skill] [skill]Storm Chaser[/skill] and 2 optional slots, usually my pet.

Marksmanship: 14. Going for survivor, so every health I can get, I use.
Wilderness: 8.
Expertise: 10.

Note: I'm only level 15, but those are my planned attributes.

I know Barbed Arrows isn't the best, but I really, really like it. Need to cap [skill]Poison Arrow[/skill] for added degen.

Stormlord Alex · Jul 17, 2007, 12:53 PM // 12:53

Power Shot sucks. Penetrating Shot isn't much better.

Savage Shot + Distracting Shot kick their asses.

You're much more likely to get survivor if you interrupt the big, bad spells.

As for Expertise... I generally run 11+1 or 10+2, for a 5 energy Cripshot/BA/Savage. 12's pretty good if you rely on mostly 10e skills, and either 8 or 13 if you use mostly 5e skills.

moko · Jul 17, 2007, 12:57 PM // 12:57

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Expertise

depends on the bar. i usually go check the scale, looking at the total energy cost of skills, checking what i get most from it, etc.

personally, for PArrow it can be rather low, especially with barbed being cheap. ^^

Tab · Jul 17, 2007, 01:05 PM // 13:05

I generally find that 9+1 exp is enough on almost any bar. Also, lose the +damage attacks, you should be taking interrupts instead. And Burning Arrow + Apply > Poison + Barbed.

Earth · Jul 17, 2007, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Power Shot sucks. Penetrating Shot isn't much better.

Savage Shot + Distracting Shot kick their asses.

You're much more likely to get survivor if you interrupt the big, bad spells.

As for Expertise... I generally run 11+1 or 10+2, for a 5 energy Cripshot/BA/Savage. 12's pretty good if you rely on mostly 10e skills, and either 8 or 13 if you use mostly 5e skills.

Haha yeah, I know they suck, but as I said, I'm only level 15, and have yet to get all the good ones

EDIT: @toilets:
I find the Burning Arrow + Apply Poison combination very boring to use, even though it's powerful. I like to use less generic builds.

Mister O · Jul 17, 2007, 01:19 PM // 13:19

Instead of making your expertise at 10 (40%), which is kinda pointless, keep it at 9 (36%), or 12 (48%), or 14 (56%), since the numbers are going to round up when you use the skills which energy costs in between 5 to 10.

I always keep my expertise at 14, which reduces my skill costs by ~60% that I can constantly spam my skills with a zealous bow.

Evilsod · Jul 17, 2007, 02:42 PM // 14:42

I tend to run 9 mostly. If i cba with Wilderness i'll go for 13/14, don't often run 12.

anshin · Jul 17, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36

this is my all around build

[skill]Burning Arrow[/skill][skill]Needling Shot[/skill][skill]Savage Shot[/skill][skill]Read the Wind[/skill][skill]Whirling Defense[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill] and two optional skills... i usually go Pin Down and Dash

i use expertise 12+3 and marksmanship 12+3+1...

people will disagree... but i don't see the use of wilderness survival as long as i have a monk with me...

Amy Awien · Jul 17, 2007, 06:37 PM // 18:37

I usually run with 13, but also with 8, 9, 12, 13 or 14 as they are all breakpoints, for 5, 10, 10, 5 and 10 E skills respectively. Depends on the bar really.

pingu666 · Jul 18, 2007, 12:38 AM // 00:38

14 now:O
back in the day i used to run 0 :'(

pingu666 · Jul 18, 2007, 12:39 AM // 00:39

14 now:O
back in the day i used to run 0 :'(

JGS · Jul 19, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23

9 for me, works fine.. although im not big on the 10e cost bow attacks.

Kaida the Heartless · Jul 20, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Always 13 or 14. Always.

BigDave · Jul 20, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

Depends on my build really.

For a splinter barrager i usually use 8 or 9 since the main skill you use is barrage which only costs 5e.

For when i use a spike build such as glass arrows with brutal weapon, i run it at 14. This helps glass arrows and also reduces the expensive attack skills energy cost to 4 energy (forked arrow, dual shot and marauders shot all cost 10e, which is what i use. And needling shot only costs 5 to begin with, 2 with high expertise).

Best thing to do is look at the cost table on wiki and work out what's best for the build your using.

samcobra · Jul 21, 2007, 01:28 AM // 01:28

I usually run the usual 10e elite bow attack template, and I always run with 14 expertise. You know, the whole AP, Savage, Dshot, Natty Stride, Troll, Mend Touch, elite bow attack that doesn't suck, other skill that doesn't suck/res.

That bar. not the piece of crap posted by the OP. Anyway, 14 exp for me!

Bloodied Blade · Aug 02, 2007, 03:28 AM // 03:28

I run 9 to 10...

Ok...I have to say it-

Power Shot?!?!?

Edited to say 9 to 10 instead of 9 to 11...the 10th point is usually something that can't do anything, so I put it there for kicks.

Ecklipze · Aug 02, 2007, 03:30 AM // 03:30

14, because it's the 10 energy breakpoint.

Master Ketsu · Aug 02, 2007, 03:49 AM // 03:49

If Im using lots of 10e bow attacks: 14
Otherwise: 9 or 13.

Epinephrine · Aug 02, 2007, 04:00 AM // 04:00

9 or 13, occasionally 8 or 14. Very rarely outside of those (touchie/trapping builds can go higher, a build like VoS archer is lower)

Div · Aug 02, 2007, 06:56 AM // 06:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by anshin

this is my all around build

[skill]Burning Arrow[/skill][skill]Needling Shot[/skill][skill]Savage Shot[/skill][skill]Read the Wind[/skill][skill]Whirling Defense[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill] and two optional skills... i usually go Pin Down and Dash

i use expertise 12+3 and marksmanship 12+3+1...

people will disagree... but i don't see the use of wilderness survival as long as i have a monk with me...

I disagree by the fact that you're running two superior runes, thereby lowering your health to probably 450 or less, and the fact there is no dshot, which is arguably the best ranger skill if not one of the best skills in the game. And yeah, take rebirth too. A rez is nice...